Mirror of Loss Guide

Mirror of Loss Guide - Baldur's Gate 3 (BG3)

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Mirror of Loss is a powerful Act 3 interactable object that can grant +2 to any ability, and in some cases, additional +1 Charisma. It does have various hidden mechanics and requires optimization for the highest success chance, but for those doing Honour Mode runs, it can have a significant impact.

This post contains major spoilers (which I still try to avoid), and the Mirror is part of Shadowheart's quest, where you will reach it naturally.

Main steps

Here, I would like to outline the main steps for those interested in obtaining results as soon as possible. I won't go into much detail about the mechanics; I'll outline what needs to be done and when.

Gain access to the Mirror room

The Map icon bg3Mirror of Loss is accessible late into the game via Lower City in Act 3. You will enter it via Map icon bg3House of Grief, which is part of Shadowheart's quest. It will resolve important parts of her backstory.

Once you deal with Map icon bg3Viconia DeVir, you will now be able to access other parts of the cloister. The goal is to unlock Map icon bg3Threshold of Loss, which can be done in these ways:

  • Pass the 30 Sleigh of Hand check via lockpicking
  • Read the Map icon bg3Hastily Written Note
  • Shadowheart sides with Shar
  • Cast Knock icon action bg3Knock​ spell on the doors

Once inside, there will be two people. You can avoid interacting with them as they are related to Shadowheart. Depending on how you interact with them, Shadowheart might not be able to access the mirror. So again, I recommend avoiding interaction with them until you do everything you need with the mirror.

At the far end of the room, you will see the mirror.

act 3 mirror of loss bg3

There is one broken mirror in Act 2, but it doesn't work.

Prepare your character

The Mirror has one difficult Religion check (25 difficulty). Sadly, if you fail it (and do not use inspirations), it is almost impossible to get +2 ability points. I will go through a few steps to maximize the success. I would recommend doing a respec of your character and creating this build:

Level Class Selection
1 Bard 1 Cantrips: any
Spells: Disguise Self icon action bg3Disguise Self
Abilities: STR - 8, DEX - 16 (15+1), CON - 15, INT - 17(15+2), WIS - 8, CHA - 8
Skills: Religion, any
2 Bard 2 Spells: any
3 Bard 3 Spells: Enhance Ability icon action bg3Enhance Ability
Subclass: Any
Abilities: choose Religion expertise
4 Bard 4 Cantrips: any
Spells: any
Feat: Ability Improvement - +2 Intelligence
5 Warlock 1 Cantrips: any
Subclass: The Fiend
Spells: any
6 Warlock 2 Spells: any
Eldritch Invocations: any
7 Warlock 3 Spells: any
Pact Boon: any
8 Warlock 4 Cantrips: any
Spells: any
Feat: Ability Improvement - +1 Intelligence, second point anywhere
9 Warlock 5 Spells: any
Eldritch Invocations: any
10 Warlock 6 Spells: any

The goal here was to get Dark One's Own Luck icon passive feature bg3Dark One's Own Luck, religion expertise, and advantage via Fox's Cunning icon action bg3Fox's Cunning​ via Enhance Ability icon action bg3Enhance Ability. Once you get all you need from the mirror, you can do a respec back to your main build.

There is another Build that you can do, which ensures that you cannot get Critical Failure, but you will need to maximise bonuses from other sources, as this one doesn't get Dark One's Own Luck icon passive feature bg3Dark One's Own Luck​:

Level Class Selection
1 Rogue 1 Abilities: STR - 8, DEX - 16 (14+2), CON - 14, INT - 16 (15+1), WIS - 12, CHA - 8
Skills: Any
2 Rogue 2 -
3 Rogue 3 Subclass: any
4 Rogue 4 Feat: Skilled icon passive feature bg3Skilled​ - choose Religion
5 Rogue 5 -
6 Rogue 6 Skills: Religion
7 Rogue 7 -
8 Rogue 8 Feat: Ability Improvement - +2 Intelligence
9 Rogue 9 -
10 Rogue 10 Feat: Ability Improvement - +2 Intelligence
11 Rogue 11 -

Gear Preparation

Here are a few gear items that can help with rolls:

Slot Item Description
helmet slot bg3Head Mask of the Shapeshifter icon bg3Mask of the Shapeshifter Gives access to Disguise Self icon action bg3Disguise Self,​ which helps activate Shapeshifter's Boon Ring icon bg3Shapeshifter's Boon Ring for higher dice rolls.
Warped Headband of Intellect icon bg3Warped Headband of Intellect If you want to avoid respeccing the character, you can use this headwear to increase your Intelligence.
amulet slot bg3Amulet Silver Pendant icon bg3Silver Pendant Just reminding of this item, best to use it on another character, so that you could apply Dark One's Own Luck icon passive feature bg3Dark One's Own Luck​ when doing the roll check.
ring slot bg3Rings Mage's Friend icon bg3Mage's Friend Gives +1 to Religion skill checks.
Shapeshifter's Boon Ring icon bg3Shapeshifter's Boon Ring Adds 1d4 when you are shapeshifting. This is pretty easy with Disguise Self icon action bg3Disguise Self.

Other Characters

I also recommend preparing characters with these actions:

  • Have someone with Guidance icon action bg3Guidance, this can be another cleric, druid, or even someone wearing Silver Pendant icon bg3Silver Pendant.
  • Any other Bard, which could cast Bardic Inspiration icon action bg3Bardic Inspiration​ for a significant roll boost.

All of this will give a sizeable bonus to the rolls:

mirror of loss religion check bg3

Patriar's Memory for +1 Charisma

Here are the main logic steps for Patriar's Memory:

  • If your build doesn't need +1 Charisma, I recommend skipping this and going for the next step to gain +2 on a selected ability.
  • If your build only needs +2 Charisma, then also skip this step.
  • This is only relevant for those who want a +1 Charisma bonus in addition to +2 (total of +3).
  • Generally, this is needed for builds that skipped Auntie Ethel Hair +1 Charisma.

This is an important option for casters like Bards and Sorcerers, and sadly, it is not 100% guaranteed. This is tricky and largely dependent on luck. First, interact with the Mirror, and then choose the first option:

Gaze into the mirror, intent on offering it one of your memories.

Now you can see all the memories that you can offer (6 in total, which decrease each time you use one). The idea here is that you can offer one of your memories for a chance to gain another memory, which might contain this +1 Charisma bonus.

mirror of loss offerable memories bg3

So every time you give up a memory, a dialogue would come up:

Something precious was surrendered. Already you cannot recall its exact nature - but you feel its loss, all the same.

Still through, for whatever was lost, something new shall be gained...

A foreign sensation assails you. For a moment, you do not feel like yourself.

And here is the most important part. You want this last dialogue to be:

Disappointment floods your mind. You were sure to succeed Stelmane, but Lord Enver Gortash has stolen your support. All that charming and cajoling in the parlours of the Upper City, wasted.

mirror of loss success charisma 1 bg3

If you got this one, congratulations, you have gained +1 Charisma. If not, you will have to offer another memory for additional try. Talk with the mirror again, and select the first option.

Sadly, you have a limited number of tries - 6 to be precise (for each memory). Moreover, you still want to leave some memories to later gain +2 to Charisma or another ability. So I recommend only sacrificing 3 - 4 memories. If you did not gain +1 Charisma by then, skip it, and concentrate on the next step

Gaining +2 to selected Ability

This is generally the main goal, and what you want to do is select the second option first:

[Religion] Offer a prayer to the mirror.

Stack up all your bonuses:

  • Enhance Ability icon action bg3Enhance Ability​ - I would precast this before interacting with the mirror and choose Fox's Cunning icon action bg3Fox's Cunning.
  • Guidance icon action bg3Guidance
  • Dark One's Own Luck icon passive feature bg3Dark One's Own Luck
  • and others

This will help you to maximise the chances of success and avoid failing the roll. If you passed it, congratulations.

In case you failed the roll, there is still an option to get the +2 Ability bonus. This requires you to sacrifice Forbidden Knowledge from the Necromancy of Thay book. After that, you can sacrifice memories for a chance to gain +2.

Now you can start offering your memories via the other dialogue choice:

Gaze into the mirror, intent on offering it one of your memories.

Again, choose one of the available memories and surrender it. After the choice, here is what would follow:

Something precious was surrendered. Already, you cannot recall its exact nature - but you feel its loss, all the same.

Still though, for whatever was lost, something new shall be gained...

And if you got this dialogue

You feel the presence of something, ancient and unknowable. It has taken notice of you.

Where once the mirror showed nothing, there is now something. Memories, experiences, skills. All prised from the minds of others, and now offered to you, to choose from

Congrats! You were successful

Now you can choose one of the dialogue options that correspond to different ability points:

Dialogue options +2 Ability
Claim memories of strength from a long-dead general, who marched under the banner of a vanished kingdom. +2 Strength
Help yourself to the memories of a seasoned thief's most daring exploits. +2 Dexterity
Seize the memories of a barbarian, whose mind and body were tempered against hardship +2 Constitution
Glean the secrets of a wizard who once stalked the library of Candlekeep. +2 Intelligence
Turn to the wisdom of a drow. Once of Lolth, then of Shar. +2 Wisdom
Warm to the guile of a bard who could charm even a dragon. +2 Charisma

Again, this is not 100% guaranteed, and if you have done everything, you might still not get all the bonuses.

After the Mirror

After you finish interacting with the mirror, you will probably have Stolen Vigour icon condition bg3Stolen Vigour​ debuff on at least one of your abilities. Either long rest or use Remove Curse icon action bg3Remove Curse​ to heal from these.

Also, remember to respec your character back to the original build.

Shadowheart Options

If you have her in your party, there are a few things to consider about what will happen. Overall, this can contain her quest spoilers, so avoid it before you reach the Map icon bg3Mirror of Loss. The possibilities depend on these two options:

Disloyal to Shar

If Shadowheart decides not to follow Shar, specifically with the major decision in Act 2, she will not be able to use the mirror. Anything you do there will have no impact.

Loyal to Shar

Here, you have one major decision before interacting with the mirror. As you enter the room, you will see 2 people. I would skip interacting with them and go straight to the mirror. This way you are considered loyal to Shar.

As you can expect, interacting with those people can lead you to the path of being disloyal to Shar, which closes access to Mirror benefits. So I recommend this sequence of steps.

Credits

If you are interested in knowing more about mechanics, check this YouTube video.

 

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